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I know this is an older post, but I just saw it. I definitely agree with your points insofar as I think there needs to be a lot more space for time and consideration and a slow process built into gender transition in general and especially for minors and young people, particularly those with other mental health challenges.

Here's where I struggle with this idea myself: at some point, if a person is tormented by mental ills, a healthy body is irrelevant because they can't use and enjoy it, and in some cases their mental illness will destroy it-completely, in cases of suicide, but also partially through substance use, inactivity, eating issues of all kinds, and so on. Having worked in health care for years, I've see that serious mental problems can be just as debilitating as physical problems. I've also noticed that there is a tendency among those who aren't the patient to look at mental problems with sort of a "just get over it and move on" type of attitude that generally isn't extended to physical issues, even those that have a behavioral (issues that worsen with inactivity) or psychological (such as pain of any type and especially chronic pain) component. (Please don't jump on me! I'm NOT saying pain is in people's heads, at all! But there is significant proof that pain of any kind is absolutely influenced by psychological aspects, which is why certain types of psychotherapy are among the primary modes of treatment for severe and-or chronic pain). My observation-including in myself-has been that people who aren't dealing with a given mental issue often have great difficulty empathising with those who are, and often believe that the person has control over their mental state more than they really do.

So, it seems to become a slippery slope. I can see, to an extent at least, how some mental health professionals advocate so much for patient self report being the primary means of diagnosis. Because, that's really the best tool they have for any mental illness, even things like schizophrenia. (There are certainly cases where people fake symptoms of psychosis for various reasons, usually secondary gain, but I don't think too many people would argue that we should thoroughly investigate or interrogate someone claiming to hear voices commanding them to hurt someone before treating them.) Certainly there ARE cases where patients will deny such symptoms yet are still obviously disabled. But when patients report any symptoms, it's quite difficult to "disprove" it, not to mention severely damaging for the majority who actually do have the symptoms they report.

The reason this relates to what your saying (brevity is not my strong suit and I'm so sorry) is that medical treatment for any mental illness causes physical side effects, many of them serious. Antidepressants are known to cause increased suicide risk at the start of treatment, especially in young people. However, once that was publicized widely and prescriptions dropped for young people, the suicide rate in that demographic actually increased, possibly because people who needed the treatment weren't getting it. ECT can cause permanent and significant memory loss, including of things like one's wedding day or the birth of one's child. It also can bring someone out of a catatonic state, in which they can't interact with anyone including their spouse or child. It's difficult to balance these risks and easy to say "well, if he wanted to snap out of it, he could!" because we can't SEE any cause that is preventing the person from improving. Antipsychotics cause tremendous weight gain and all the problems that go with it-cardiac, metabolic, orthopedic and so on. They also can cause permanent abnormal facial movements that persist even if the med is stopped. Again, it's very easy for people who love the patient to think "well, he just needs to understand that the voices aren't real! Then he won't need to suffer all those physical effects!" But the voices ARE real, to the patient. And they're often much more disabling than the physical problems. (I do think part of the reason for that is that we generally have a much better approach to management of chronic physical illness than chronic psychiatric illness, but that's a different topic).

So it's difficult for me to balance my own sense that many people with gender issues, especially those who are young and whose issues are relatively recent, could use more time and introspection before jumping into any physical modifications, with my observation that for whatever reason many people with mental difficulties of all kinds simply seem to be unable to overcome them without some form of medical intervention. Along with the observation that the patient is typically the best source of information about what is going on with them, physically but especially mentally. I haven't yet figured out how to reconcile all that.

Thanks for letting me share my thoughts.

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There really needs to be more research done on the health effects of gender "care," especially on chronic pain. The population seeking these treatments has higher rates of trauma and emotional distress, which are huge risk factors for chronic pain. I would not be surprised if the majority end up in chronic pain after hormones/surgery. That is something patients needs to be warned about (informed consent!!), and parents need to be aware of before they start down this path. Even if we believe the lie that the treatments will solve emotional problems in the long term, if it's a trade off of chronic physical pain is it really worth it?

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